More liberals should have abortions

Wow, okay, Happycrow’s getting offensive.

But, wait a minute.  In the late 80s to early 90s, abortion was celebrated by many liberals.  The current “safe, legal, and rare” attitude on the pro-choice side is a serious change from the sorts of positions NOW used to push.  Something’s changed.  Is it the so-called “Roe Effect,” thus moving the country relatively towards a more conservative public consensus?  If I put “every woman should be able to have an abortion” on a t-shirt, nobody would notice me at a pro-choice rally.  But if I put the title of this blog post on a t-shirt, I’d be lucky to make it out of said rally with my teeth intact.  I think that’s b/c, deep down, people realize that there’s some truth in Taranto’s “Roe Effect” theory.

I was wondering about this because yesterday morning while I was sick of hearing NPR, I flipped over to WBAP and caught their conservative guy Mark Davis.  Not a bad guy, but apparently he regards evolution, and particularly, natural selection, as a theory shot full of holes.  Well, that resonated beautifully with his (relatively ignorant) caller… but we can also speculate, that not only are biological creatures subject to natural selection (a fool can notice that people with sufficiently strong birth defects are less likely to reproduce, for example– if the idea didn’t work, that sort of genetic diversity would make no difference), but that memes also effect selection.

Thus, Hollywood, one of the prime movers of public US liberal thinking, has seen the typical starlets suddenly experiencing a pro-natal “having kids is fashionable” phenomenon since the beginning of the century?

I was curious, b/c Davis is very much against the Fundamentalist LDS guys out at their ranch, and his pretentions to neutrality regarding these folks were paper-thin at best.  Had a couple hundred students from monogamous marriages been seized, he’d have gone nuclear.  So… are the conservatives right, and we should keep only to those ideals that we know promote stable, self-reproducing societies… or should we open up the floodgates, and allow people to do their own thing, secure in the knowledge that if they’re unhealthy…. they’ll be counter-survival and disappear all by themselves?

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  1. convivialdingo

     /  July 25, 2008

    “Darwin in action” as I’ve said for a while now.

  2. I concur with Convivial — let’s face it, cultural competition is why the West outstripped the rest of the world. In the long run, for example, it’s societally better to tax gamblers than it is to subject them to the Goat’s Tongue. Besides, I think there could be an argument made (I’m not suitably prepared to make it though) in favor of a country being stronger for having internal strife. That we can have people like Al Franken and Rush Limbaugh straining at the bell-curve’s edges means we can include an awful lot of variation in between.

    Oh, and speaking as a Libertarian, I can think there are more than a few folks on both sides of the aisle who could have benefitted from the saline scissor treatment.

  3. Mike

     /  July 25, 2008

    I’ll second that. A little bit of competition in healthy (maybe even more than a little bit). I’d say that the bad does usually get selected out, but that is not entirely true. I’d say it has less chance of success. Ideas work the same way. Hell, look at communism. Why do people still exist who think this will actually work? Dunno, but somehow the idea survives. Same with some of the freaks and dumbos out there. Maybe its technology? The internet now allows even nutjobs to find soulmates, so they can repoduce.

    Hrm, by that logic in order to save the species we need to destroy the World Wide Web…

    I’m in.

  4. Ah, but I’m *suited* to its information-exchange capabilities, and greatly empowered by it… so, Mike, it looks like all of us instead just out-click you? 😀

  5. celogo

     /  July 25, 2008

    Please don’t get Rog started LOL

  6. Mike

     /  July 26, 2008

    Well, there we go, adaption in action. I could just keep using the Internet like I usually do and that will probably do more damage to it in the long run…


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