The Democrats and their Deadlines

It’s on days like this that I wonder what would have happened had Pompey been allowed to cast his veto.

If Bush were willing to take a (hard) fall, he could come up with a reason for not being able to veto this, and single-handedly destroy the Democrats.  Of course, he’d be a leper in his own party for decades to come…  then again, playing treason for the sake of domestic politics is what Code Pink does.

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  1. Anna

     /  March 28, 2007

    Illuminate me about that Pompey veto thing, please…::confused look::

  2. Mike

     /  March 28, 2007

    You are talking Pompey as in “guy who fought Caesar for control of the known world and lost” right?

  3. Oh. I’m an ass. Not Pompey. Caesar’s butt-boy. Whose name has conveniently escaped me.

  4. You are not an ass……Congress is the ass today. A great, honking, billion-dollar-wasting astronomically stupid collection of knuckle-dragging Neanderthal half-wits that could not pour piss out of a boot with directions written on the heel.

    Not that I have an opinion, or anything……..

  5. Anna

     /  March 28, 2007

    You mean Marcus Antonius as a tribune of the plebs, right before the Senate declared Caesar an enemy of the state and he was booted out of the Senate building causing bodily injury?

  6. happycrow

     /  March 28, 2007

    Yes, that Marc Antony.

    And, yes, James, I agree. The Dems could do this right if they REALLY wanted to stand up and be counted. Instead they waste everybody’s time with this meaningless penny-ante bullshit, knowing they don’t have the votes to override a veto. It’s like they’re singlehandedly trying to prove the Rovian “where ya gonna go” thesis right.

  7. Mike

     /  March 29, 2007

    Ah, that makes more sense (Marc Antony I mean, the Democrats don’t make much sense anymore).

  8. Mike

     /  March 29, 2007

    Great line by the Minority Leader of the Senate: “Let’s hurry up a comprimise between the House and Senate so we can get this bill up to the President to veto”.

    Morons. What is the point of all this posing anyway? They vote the bill (which is so laden with Pork it makes a mockery of all the anti-corruption bs they were spouting), the bill gets vetoed. They then are in a rush to pass a bill to fund the troops. They won’t ever get enough votes to override the President and if they hold out then they are brutally shown to be “unsupportive” of the troops (which while making certain members of that party giddy with glee will kneecap the party politically with most of the centralists), so they end up having to vote a funding bill anyway.

    All this for a pose?

  9. Alex

     /  March 29, 2007

    Yes – all for a pose and to try to put a finger in the eye of the man they hate.

    Both parties have been in a pissing match with each other for far too long now so that all we get is a slow steady backslide of progress for our country while the rest of the world catches up and exceeds us.

    To paraphrase Shakespeare – A pox upon both their houses. Neither party will ever do what is right for the rest of us until they destroy the other.

  10. Amen.

  11. Mike

     /  March 29, 2007

    To quote the Tech Sergeant from the movie “The Battle of Britian”: It’s enough to make you weep.

  12. Alex

     /  March 29, 2007

    Yes it is. And if I propose revolution and throwing out both parties I’m an enemy of the state. Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy.

  13. Mike

     /  March 29, 2007

    (*&^ that. I proclaim revolution and I say let’s do it.

    But that’s not going to get anything done. Proposing it is easy, its the bringing it off that is the trick.

  14. Mike

     /  March 30, 2007

    I have a chance to have lunch with my State’s Senator this coming Tuesday. I don’t know it I should go though, I am kind of afraid of what I might say.

    My Senator is Ben Nelson from Nebraska.

    Anyone got any feedback?

  15. Alex

     /  March 30, 2007

    Speaking truth to power can be good or bad as I know from way too many personal experiences. In some cases it has been exactly what needed to be done and in other cases it’s not just shooting yourself in the foot, it’s impaling yourself, slowly, in the balls.

    First find out who else is in the audience. If its your immediate superior who might be embarrassed by one of his subordinates giving the impression of too much free thought then hold your tongue. If your supervisor won’t be there and instead it is other like-minded officers, then just use good judgment.

    In either case you really should go. If for no other reason than to size up your Senator as someone really worth supporting who has a brain in his head or as someone worth ignoring. If you do get the chance to make the one very insightful comment during the lunch that everyone agrees with, then you’ve elevated yourself in stature in both the Senator’s eyes and those at the table, which means you carry more clout from here on out.

  16. Mike

     /  March 30, 2007

    Dude, this is the idiot who is Republican and votes with the Democrats on every anti-war measure. He was one of the two Republicans who broke ranks on this last Funding Bill and sided with them.

    I don’t know a single Nebraskan (well, 2 maybe) who think this guy is anything other than a turncoat. You DON’T get elected in Nebraska by joining the Anti-War crowd.

    Except this Tard. He got re-elected 2 years ago and is good for 4 more. When it gets to be aout 18 months out he will suddenly become the most hard core Right Winger you have ever seen. Once re-elected, he shifts back to being Republican in name only. He has done it once, and will do it again (he has quite a history, but that is another story).

    He is here to eat with his constituents from Nebraska who are in the military (lots in Fort Riley). I don’t think he has much idea of how unpopular he is with us right now.

    My boss won’t be there, so I am not worried about that. My issue is that honestly don’t know if I can be civil with him. I honestly feel like he spit on me and my comrades by saying what he has said, done what he has done (and he is a Vietnam Vet which REALLY makes him unpopular with the win-the-war crowd), and the way he ignores his home state when in Washington.

    I am worried about be very unprofessional with him. He is supposedly coming to show us (the troops) how he “supports” us and is voting against fighting and winning the war and voting for cutting out.

    Nothing pisses me off more than the “I support the troops but not the war” crowd.

    BS. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. And this bastard is one of the biggest ones.

    (catching breath)

    Okay, you can see what I mean. I’d like to grill this guy and give him a peice of my mind about how full of it he is, but I am an officer and I need to be professional. But I don’t know if I can, so that’s the rub.

    I’m going to sleep on it and tell them tomorrow.

  17. Mike

     /  March 31, 2007

    Well, Tuesday goes nothing. I put my name down and I will see if I can avoid from getting worked up. I am thinking a long workout that morning to make me tired so maybe I am not going in there fired up.

    I don’t know what it is this week but I have been really worked up about some of this stuff recently.

    I need a vacation.

  18. Alex

     /  March 31, 2007

    I see your point and I completely misunderstood your concern. Given how you describe him though, he’s pretty damn smart because it’s obvious he has the political system down pat. He knows it VERY well and plays it exactly. The fact that he did this tactic (as you say, republican in name only) once and fooled many of your fellow statesmen says something. Also says that maybe he’s a lot more moderate and independent than you may give him credit.

    So if you go – you still can size him up mentally and determine if his abilities are due to pragmatism or due to self-serving interests. Either way you know your potential enemy by interacting with them in person rather than from afar.

  19. Mike

     /  April 1, 2007

    He has a lock on the “machine” in the state. That’s a big issue. Our other Senator was a great Govenor and when the Republican Machine wouldn’t back him for Senate, he ran and won as a Democrat (which I didn’t know until recently, I remembered him as a Republican).


    I may not even get the chance to meet him. I have eye surgery the same day so I will probably be out when I get my “shot”.

    There is a up side to this though. It turns out my cousin is part of the Blackhawk crew that flies BOTH of them down for this from Nebraska. The entire crew are Iraqi War vets and they plan to put both Senators through the wringer with questions before they even get to us.

    Which sounds fine by me.

  20. Alex

     /  April 1, 2007

    Eye Surgery?!? What happened?

  21. Mike

     /  April 3, 2007

    Well, that was a wasted lunch hour. Senator was late, and it was a different guy (he was the Democrat not the Republican). And he didn’t do to much asking of questions, he just sat around the center with all the highups (the ones who have to be polite or have career impact).

    Bah. This was nothing but a Photo Op.


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